| [Yohimbine79] | nurses always KNOW it all...and yet often seem to be just a little OFF in their understanding of things
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| [djbambam] | i dont know a vast deal about medicine...its consistenly changing....i keep abreast of subjects that interest me...
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [Yohimbine79] | i'm sure you do
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [djbambam] | oh really
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| [djbambam] | doctors seem to order up all these labs, and do all these test....when a simple look at a kids throat would tell u it is tonsilitis
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| [djbambam] | or better yet
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| [djbambam] | thursday nights trip to the er
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| [djbambam] | where nurses weren't doing a dayum thing
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| [djbambam] | doctors werent doing a dayum thing
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| [djbambam] | it was a cma who came in to look me over
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| [djbambam] | because the doctor was to busy
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| [djbambam] | he was sitting on his lazy ass readinng the newspaper and stuffing his face
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| [djbambam] | so dont fucking get me started on the bullshit mister
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| [djbambam] | on how fucked up doctors perceptions are
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| [Yohimbine79] | we have to order tests
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| [Yohimbine79] | b/c then people come back and say
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| [Yohimbine79] | wait, how do you know?
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| [djbambam] | thats bullshit
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| [Yohimbine79] | do you think we should just TREAT things without knowing what they have?
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| [Yohimbine79] | for example
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| [djbambam] | years and years
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| [Yohimbine79] | you might have tonsillitis...so obvious even a NURSE could figure it out
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| [Yohimbine79] | BUT
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| [djbambam] | ppl went by with out 200 diff labs......
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| [djbambam] | now days
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| [Yohimbine79] | how do you know what medications that particular bacteria is susceptible to
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| [djbambam] | all 200 labs have to come back neg b4 they will let u go
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| [Yohimbine79] | ESPECIALLY today when there is growing resistance to medications
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| [Yohimbine79] | OR what if it is a virus and there is no need to give said antibiotics
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| [Yohimbine79] | b/c it would do no good
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| [Yohimbine79] | and only increase resistance of other baceteria?
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| [Yohimbine79] | hmmmm
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| [djbambam] | well if doctors wouldn't perscribe so many dayum meds
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| [djbambam] | and let ppl do shit on thier own
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| [Yohimbine79] | for such VAST knowledge, it seems you've missed a VERY important part!
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| [djbambam] | no kid i haven't
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| [Yohimbine79] | yes, "kid" you have!
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| [djbambam] | i simply disagree with ur philo on things
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| [Yohimbine79] | you are the one who said you can just look at treat
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| [Yohimbine79] | you don't need tests
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| [Yohimbine79] | which is COMPTELELY wrong!
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| [Yohimbine79] | we do tests when necessary
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| [Yohimbine79] | for a reason
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| [djbambam] | u rack up test
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| [djbambam] | on test
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| [djbambam] | on test
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| [djbambam] | what u see is this
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| [djbambam] | $$
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| [djbambam] | $$
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| [djbambam] | on $$
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| [Yohimbine79] | despite what a know-it-all nurse might say
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| [Yohimbine79] | why?
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| [Yohimbine79] | do we get money for running tests?
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| [Yohimbine79] | NO
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| [djbambam] | u do test all the time
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| [Yohimbine79] | so why would we care?
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| [djbambam] | for a cough
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| [djbambam] | omg
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| [Yohimbine79] | we get the payment for an office visit
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| [djbambam] | that so funny
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| [Yohimbine79] | when i said your labs out...that isn't giving ME any money
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [djbambam] | i can talk and provide evidence on the kick backs doctors get from labs, from pharm companies...all sorts of kickbacks
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| [Yohimbine79] | haha
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| [Yohimbine79] | i'd like that
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| [Yohimbine79] | b/c that would a MAJOR lawsuit
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| [Yohimbine79] | especially since THAT is illegal now!
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| [djbambam] | but yet....doctors are honest ppl
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| [Yohimbine79] | no kickbacks allowed
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| [djbambam] | and nurses are the ones in the wrong all the time
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| [djbambam] | no now its not a kickback....its a incinative program
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| [Yohimbine79] | perhaps
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| [Yohimbine79] | but not a kickback
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| [Yohimbine79] | no cars
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| [Yohimbine79] | no trips
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| [Yohimbine79] | the most we get these days are a lunch or dinner
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| [Yohimbine79] | that's it
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| [Yohimbine79] | maybe a pen
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| [djbambam] | its a kick back
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| [djbambam] | either way
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| [Yohimbine79] | only so we will give FREE SAMPLES to our patients of their drugs
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| [Yohimbine79] | that is benefitting the drug companies and the patient
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| [Yohimbine79] | none of it does so for the doctor!
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| [djbambam] | haha
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| [djbambam] | i can take u and show u a doctor i know in alberqure who has gotten so much money from incinative programs.....he has put his own daughter through med school
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| [Yohimbine79] | you are lying!
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| [Yohimbine79] | unless he got al lthe money in the 80's
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| [Yohimbine79] | in which case, this talk is moot
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| [Yohimbine79] | b/c we are talking about NOW
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| [djbambam] | but yet
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| [djbambam] | doctors dont get money
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| [djbambam] | oh no
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| [Yohimbine79] | they don't
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| [Yohimbine79] | unless he is doing speaking engagements for the company
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| [Yohimbine79] | then he is an EMPLOYEE
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| [djbambam] | no i'm not matt
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| [djbambam] | i can prove it to u tonight
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| [Yohimbine79] | and it is by no means incentive!
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| [djbambam] | we can take a road trip
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| [Yohimbine79] | okay
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| [Yohimbine79] | prove it
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| [Yohimbine79] | no
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| [Yohimbine79] | what is the doctor's name?
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| [Yohimbine79] | i'll call him
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| [djbambam] | lets go
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| [Yohimbine79] | i'll ask him!
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| [Yohimbine79] | and then i'll turn him in!
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| [djbambam] | exactly
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| [djbambam] | u dont want to admit u were wrong
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| [djbambam] | like all other doctors
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| [Yohimbine79] | i'll admit it if i am--but thing is, I AM NOT
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| [djbambam] | ur god
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| [djbambam] | u do nothing wrong
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| [Yohimbine79] | i have to be in the hospital tomorrow morning...i have things to do unlike you
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| [Yohimbine79] | i can't just drive to NM
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| [djbambam] | haha
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| [djbambam] | u never are matt
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| [djbambam] | u never are
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| [djbambam] | politics
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| [Yohimbine79] | give me his name!
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| [Yohimbine79] | i swear, i will call him
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| [djbambam] | matt
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| [djbambam] | i have a job
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| [djbambam] | kid
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| [djbambam] | i can't up and leave
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| [Yohimbine79] | i'm curious how he is getting away with it!
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| [Yohimbine79] | b/c it is illegal!
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| [Yohimbine79] | unless he is speaking for the company!
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| [Yohimbine79] | ummmm, you were the one saying it
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| [djbambam] | but i am willing to, to prove to u these things
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| [djbambam] | so u will get it outta u little head, that a doctor isn't always right
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| [djbambam] | nither are test
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| [Yohimbine79] | not me!
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| [Yohimbine79] | no, but we do run tests for a reason
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| [djbambam] | labs or other things
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| [Yohimbine79] | and b/c tests are not always right
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| [djbambam] | some times gut feelings are whats right
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| [Yohimbine79] | sometimes we have to run more than one
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| [Yohimbine79] | medicine is a guessing game
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| [Yohimbine79] | nothing is FACT until it happens
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| [djbambam] | ok matt
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| [Yohimbine79] | if we had a crystal ball...that would be great
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| [djbambam] | i will give u an example of a situtaion at my store to day
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| [Yohimbine79] | but we run tests
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| [Yohimbine79] | get a good idea
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| [Yohimbine79] | to the best of our knowledge
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| [Yohimbine79] | and then we do the best we can
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| [djbambam] | this little kid 2 yr old....comes in
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| [Yohimbine79] | what kind of store?
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| [djbambam] | pale......not blue
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| [djbambam] | not normal pigment
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| [Yohimbine79] | pale according to who?
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| [Yohimbine79] | b/c unless a doctor says so...its a subjective finding!
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| [djbambam] | 2 yr old pale...not blue...not normal pigment....what do u do?
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| [djbambam] | oh yah
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| [djbambam] | seems like he was running
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| [Yohimbine79] | that's all i get?
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| [Yohimbine79] | a pale 2 year old?
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| [Yohimbine79] | who says he is pale?
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| [Yohimbine79] | but what measure are we saying?
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| [djbambam] | what do u do?
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| [Yohimbine79] | by not but
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| [Yohimbine79] | i'd ask more questions
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| [djbambam] | no thats all u get
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| [djbambam] | is what i got
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| [djbambam] | a plae 2 yr old...who appears he might have been running
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| [Yohimbine79] | if he is running at 2...that's good
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| [Yohimbine79] | that's the STUPIDST thing i've ever heard
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| [Yohimbine79] | good thing you don't write tests for medical school
[tempetownTop8] he needs running shoes now
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| [Yohimbine79] | ummm...a 2 year old, pale, may have been running
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| [djbambam] | yohim....
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| [Yohimbine79] | TREAT
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [djbambam] | i am asking u what walked into my store
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [djbambam] | i will tell u what i did
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| [Yohimbine79] | into a store?
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| [djbambam] | and what the paramedics said
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| [Yohimbine79] | he walked into a store
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| [Yohimbine79] | why do i give a fuck if he walked into a store?
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| [Yohimbine79] | i don't get why that has anything to do with anything
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| [djbambam] | now tell me what u would do first DOCTOR
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| [Yohimbine79] | or why he was consulting the all powerful DJ in a store on his medical rights
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| [djbambam] | no yohim u wouldn't because i just showed....u dont know what u would do
[sparky7fun] anyone horny
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| [Yohimbine79] | i wouldn't do shit for a random 2 year old in a store that was running
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| [Yohimbine79] | why would i?
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| [Yohimbine79] | i'd say
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| [Yohimbine79] | come to my office
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| [djbambam] | first i checked his pulse....it wasn't rapid like running...instead appeared normal and shallow
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| [Yohimbine79] | IF you have a problem
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| [Yohimbine79] | wow....a regular genious...you checked his pulse
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| [djbambam] | then checked his air way...apppeared normal...
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| [Yohimbine79] | a random person's pulse
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| [djbambam] | but yet he was acting like he had been running
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| [Yohimbine79] | do yo uwork in a clinic or something?
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| [Yohimbine79] | or are you bagging groceries at a store?
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| [djbambam] | no matt i dont
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| [Yohimbine79] | that is SO strange
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [djbambam] | i am area manager for a chain of stores
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| [Yohimbine79] | why were you feeling little kids in a store?
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| [djbambam] | matt
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| [djbambam] | u dont get it
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| [Yohimbine79] | and you were completely wrong to be doing that
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| [djbambam] | the kid, was dieing
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| [Yohimbine79] | haha
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| [Yohimbine79] | dying?
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [djbambam] | 911 came in as he was having a astmath attack
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| [Yohimbine79] | of what doctor?
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| [Yohimbine79] | he came to store b/c he was having an asthma attack?
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| [Yohimbine79] | well he should die...b/c then he is stupid for not going to see a doctor
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| [Yohimbine79] | instead he gets medical advice from a store manager
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| [djbambam] | he couldnt' find his mom
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| [djbambam] | so he went where he knew someone liked kids
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| [Yohimbine79] | the gay store manager?
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [Yohimbine79] | YIKES!
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| [Yohimbine79] | if he was having an asthma attack...he would be tachypnic
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| [djbambam] | it wasn't medical advice
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| [djbambam] | it was good samiertian help u dumb fuck
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| [Yohimbine79] | perhaps tachycardic
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| [Yohimbine79] | he might be having deep breaths
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| [djbambam] | oh well
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| [djbambam] | its simple
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| [Yohimbine79] | using accessory muscles to breathe
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| [Yohimbine79] | he wouldn't just look pale!
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| [Yohimbine79] | sorry!
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| [djbambam] | matt thinks he knows everything
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| [djbambam] | and i clearly pointed out in 2 cases he doesn
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| [djbambam] | and now he is pissed
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| [Yohimbine79] | to say, pale 2 year old, what would you do?
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| [Yohimbine79] | that's WRONG
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| [Yohimbine79] | wrong?
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| [Yohimbine79] | ME?
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| [Yohimbine79] | i am NOT wrong
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| [djbambam] | and ranting
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| [Yohimbine79] | now, i do think you might be a bit, ummmm, mentally challenged
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| [djbambam] | yah kid u are
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| [djbambam] | go see a doctor
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| [djbambam] | at his office
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| [djbambam] | i can't breath
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| [djbambam] | go see a doctor at his office
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| [Yohimbine79] | he said i can't breath?
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| [djbambam] | thats fucked up matt
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| [Yohimbine79] | you said pale 2 year old
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| [Yohimbine79] | that's it
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| [Yohimbine79] | why would i say
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| [Yohimbine79] | randomly
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| [djbambam] | no
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| [djbambam] | he didnt
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| [djbambam] | but u could tell he couldn't breath
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| [Yohimbine79] | oh my god, a pale 2 year old
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| [Yohimbine79] | run up to him and say
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| [Yohimbine79] | let me feel your PULSE
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| [Yohimbine79] | oh
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| [Yohimbine79] | shallow
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| [Yohimbine79] | you are having an asthma attack
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [Yohimbine79] | i know you think yo uknow a lot about medicine
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [Yohimbine79] | but it is quite obvious you don't!
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| [Yohimbine79] | congrats on SAVING a LIFE though!
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| [djbambam] | i said earlier
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| [djbambam] | i dont
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| [djbambam] | however i know enough to know when someone is bsing
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| [Yohimbine79] | well, 4 years of medical school has taught me more than how to BS
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [Yohimbine79] | sorry to say
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| [Yohimbine79] | i'm sure your high school diploma means a lot to you
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| [Yohimbine79] | but go to college and med school
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| [Yohimbine79] | then we can talk!
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| [djbambam] | and its amazing how ur the only doctor ever to call a resi..a "fellowship"
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| [Yohimbine79] | i didn't call a resident a fellow
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| [Yohimbine79] | a fellowship is something AFTER residency smart guy
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| [Yohimbine79] | for example,
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| [djbambam] | kid i am in college for nursing
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| [djbambam] | so um
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| [djbambam] | yah
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| [Yohimbine79] | after doing a general surgery RESIDENCY
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| [Yohimbine79] | you do a CARDIOTHORACIC FELLOWSHIP
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| [Yohimbine79] | dumbass
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| [Yohimbine79] | OH
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| [Yohimbine79] | you are a nursing student
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| [Yohimbine79] | now its very clear!
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [Yohimbine79] | lol
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| [Yohimbine79] | you have never heard of a fellowship?
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| [Yohimbine79] | that is sad
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| [Yohimbine79] | what do you think cardiologists do?
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| [Yohimbine79] | or gasteroenterologists?
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| [Yohimbine79] | or hematologists/oncologists?
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| [Yohimbine79] | or endocringologists?
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| [Yohimbine79] | or rehumatologists
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| [Yohimbine79] | or geriatric physicians?
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| [Yohimbine79] | they ALL do FELLOWSHIPS
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| [Yohimbine79] | after residency
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| [Yohimbine79] | smart guy!
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| [djbambam] | thats funny
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| [Yohimbine79] | none of the OBGYN docs have heard of a fellowship?
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| [djbambam] | nope
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| [Yohimbine79] | that's sad
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| [djbambam] | no its more sad
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| [Yohimbine79] | b/c to do HIGH RISK OB...you have to do fellowship
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| [djbambam] | that ur the only one who says it
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| [djbambam] | matt u dont get it
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| [Yohimbine79] | no, iget it
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| [Yohimbine79] | yo uare anurse
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| [Yohimbine79] | who thinks you know a lot
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| [Yohimbine79] | and you odn't
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| [Yohimbine79] | and you already have that shitty nurse attitutde
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| [Yohimbine79] | that you are smarter than a doctor
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| [Yohimbine79] | and hence
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| [Yohimbine79] | you will be a HORRIBLE
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| [Yohimbine79] | nurse
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| [Yohimbine79] | b/c your job is to do what I say!
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| [djbambam] | if i cared enough to validate ur "presence" i would have done gone and done research myself..intead i simply could care less
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| [djbambam] | of a doctor who is god
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| [djbambam] | till the first patient dies
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| [djbambam] | no matt
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| [djbambam] | my job is to do what is in the best interest of the patient
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| [djbambam] | not what u say
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| [djbambam] | i will break doctors orders if they appear to endanger my patient
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| [Yohimbine79] | and you will get in trouble very quickly |
